I did it. (got around the 8 IA button limitation)

[sendep7]

So after finding out that the GCX didnt respond to program changes, i was a bit bummed, because i had wasted 5 of my IA buttons for FX bypass on my TC G-force, and to switch 2 pre-amps. only leaving me with 3 buttons left for GCX loops.

after doing some research i found a product called Midi Event Programmer.

i took the last 2 loops (7,8) where my pre-amps are and un-assigned them from the IA buttons. Then i wrote a script for the Event Programmer that listened for program changes on channel 15. program 1, is re-written and sent as CC #87 val 127 on channel16. and cc#86 val 0 on 16... that turns on loop8 and off loop7

then i made one for program change 2 on chan 15, that does the opposite. Boom! now i have a toggle for those loops. and it frees up 2 of the IA buttons for use in other loops. and saved myself from having to buy another GCP.

thanks for the help in clearing up the capabilities of the gcp/gcx for me!

-SenDep7

as for feature requests for the GCX, how bout program changes? or for the GCP being able to send CC messages with patches that arent tied to IA buttons.

[JohnClark]

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But the Ground Control Pro does control GCX Loops independently of Instant Access buttons. If you enable a GCX unit under the Expanders section, its loop status becomes programmable within each Ground Control Pro preset. In fact, the Ground Control Pro can switch all the loops on up to four GCX units per preset.

[sendep7]

yea, but then i cant use the IA's for my TC G-force fx bypasses if i do that

so basically, i have my loops like this.

1-6 pedals,
7 is recto recording preamp
8 triaxis.

then on the gcp

button 1 is loop 6
button 2 is delay on the gforce
button 3 is verb on the gforce
button 4 is chorus on the gforce
button 5 is loop5
button 6 is loop 4
button 7 can now be loop3
and button 8 can now by loop 2

loops 7 and 8 are being toggled on and off at the same time by the program change. when the loops were tied to the IA buttons i had to use a gcp preset to chage them, and buttons 7 and 8 were useless.

-Sen

[sendep7]

i was told in another thread that this wasnt possible, so i came up with another way to do it.

http://www.voodoolab.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5222

[JohnClark]

Sorry for the confusion, but it is in fact absolutely possible to control the GCX as well as have your Instant Access buttons assigned to control your G-Major Effects blocks without the need of the Event Processor. It is cool that you came up with a workaround to the apparent problem and for that you certainly get high points in my book.

[sendep7]

so if i enable the GCX as an expander, i can send loop on offs with patch changes, without assigning them to IA...and i can mix and match? so have some of the loops enabled as IAs and some of them sent with the patches?

[JohnClark]

Any GCX that is enabled within Setup Mode under Expanders will have all eight of its loops assignable on each preset.
1. Call up a Ground Control Pro preset you want to edit.
2. Press and hold the Edit button until the screen changes.
3. Press Select Down repeatedly until you get the the "GCX-#" screen. (# = the GCX that you want to program for this preset. You can have up to four GCXs. their number is based on their position in the MIDI chain with the first one that the Ground Control Pro connects to being #1.)
4. On this screen the upper two row of buttons numbered 1-8 directly control the same numbered loops on the currently displayed GCX. Activate or Bypass all eight loops as necessary for this preset.
5. Press the Edit button to save the preset, then press the Yes button to exit.

The above is the same regardless of which Bank Mode you are in. This is how you automate the switching of a complex rig. This will send each GCX that is Enabled a string of messages telling every single loop what state to be in for each preset. Before even getting to Instant Access buttons, this is what allows a Ground Control Pro preset to control up to eight MIDI devices as well as up to four GCX units.



On to the Instant Access buttons... The Instant Access buttons are really only there to give direct control of the eight GCX loops you just have to have real time control over, or to control features on parameters on any of your MIDI devices using Control Change messages. You assigned some Instant Access buttons to control G-Force stuff. That didn't take control of the GCX away from you completely, it just limited the number of Instant Access buttons you could use for directly controlling GCX loops as if you had a virtual pedalboard.

I hope that helps to clear things up a bit!

[sendep7]

yep, that works...hahah i guess i just didnt understand it in the manual. i was under the impression that if you enabled the GCX as an expander, the IA buttons were directly mapped to the loops.

Thanks for your help!