I want my delay trails!

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atomtanger
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I want my delay trails!

Post by atomtanger »

Guys,
New to the forum, lots of great information here. I have the following issue: My 80's Fender concert amp has a series effects loop, i saw the diagram on the gcx page http://www.voodoolab.com/gcxdiagrams/05 ... tching.pdf
(with the g-force not on the loop) it states that to keep the delay/reverb trails after muting the signal into the unit, the amp's loop must be parallel. Is there a work around this?

My setup is:

Guitar into GCX guitar In
3 pedals on loops 1-3 > Front of amp
Effects loop Send >Loop 4 Mod Factor
Loop 5 Time Factor > Effects loop Return

Help will be greatly appreciated!

Adrian

Manhell
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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by Manhell »

It will do what you want if in the next preset the g force will be activated even if is with a dry preset.

octatonic
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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by octatonic »

What about adding a Suhr Minimix to the rig?

JohnClark
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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by JohnClark »

In your case, as described, you would have only two choices... either run the processor in parallel using a mixer, or run the processor in series and active at all times to allow the spillover. One thing to help you decide would be if you use a lot of the other effects within the G-Force besides just reverbs and delays. If so, then you would likely not want to use a parallel signal path due to rendering the other effect types basically useless.
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atomtanger
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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by atomtanger »

Guys,
Thanks a lot for your input. I'm afraid i was not clear enough with the issue, I apologize. I do not have a g-force, all I'm running is the pedals i listed at the end of my posting, i was only referring to the "type" of "setup sample" i found on the site. However, i think the mixer setup could work, a simple passive mixer like "DOD AC240 Resistance Mixer", what i came up with is this:

Guitar>Guitar In GCX
3 pedals on loops 1-3 > front of the amp
Amp's Effects loop send>Loop4>ModFactor IN
Loop 4 Out > Loop 5 IN
Loop 5 Send > Time Factor IN
Time Factor Out > Mixer IN 1
Loop 5 Out > Mixer IN 2
Mixer Out > Amp's Effects loop Return

What do you think? Works? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Can't wait to get this up and running.

A

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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by JohnClark »

atomtanger wrote:Guys,
Thanks a lot for your input. I'm afraid i was not clear enough with the issue, I apologize. I do not have a g-force, all I'm running is the pedals i listed at the end of my posting, i was only referring to the "type" of "setup sample" i found on the site. However, i think the mixer setup could work, a simple passive mixer like "DOD AC240 Resistance Mixer", what i came up with is this:

Guitar>Guitar In GCX
3 pedals on loops 1-3 > front of the amp
Amp's Effects loop send>Loop4>ModFactor IN
Loop 4 Out > Loop 5 IN
Loop 5 Send > Time Factor IN
Time Factor Out > Mixer IN 1
Loop 5 Out > Mixer IN 2
Mixer Out > Amp's Effects loop Return

What do you think? Works? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Can't wait to get this up and running.

A
Ha! Oops, it seems so clear now! Anyway, the above setup should be correct regardless of what device you want running in parallel... even if it were a G-Force. ;)
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atomtanger
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Re: I want my delay trails!

Post by atomtanger »

JohnClark wrote:
atomtanger wrote:Guys,
Thanks a lot for your input. I'm afraid i was not clear enough with the issue, I apologize. I do not have a g-force, all I'm running is the pedals i listed at the end of my posting, i was only referring to the "type" of "setup sample" i found on the site. However, i think the mixer setup could work, a simple passive mixer like "DOD AC240 Resistance Mixer", what i came up with is this:

Guitar>Guitar In GCX
3 pedals on loops 1-3 > front of the amp
Amp's Effects loop send>Loop4>ModFactor IN
Loop 4 Out > Loop 5 IN
Loop 5 Send > Time Factor IN
Time Factor Out > Mixer IN 1
Loop 5 Out > Mixer IN 2
Mixer Out > Amp's Effects loop Return

What do you think? Works? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Can't wait to get this up and running.

A
Ha! Oops, it seems so clear now! Anyway, the above setup should be correct regardless of what device you want running in parallel... even if it were a G-Force. ;)
Thanks everyone!!, just ordered the mixer. I will update with results and possibly a couple of images of the rig, i have one more part of the rig to do and that is a 1U patch bay on the back panel of the rack for setup convenience, again thanks to all for your support. :D

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