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Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:14 am
by Markies
I use the Ground Control Pro Foot Controller in combination with the GCX Audio Switcher & a G-major V2.0

I need more switches for instant access, to control the audio switcher and all the effects from the G-major. How do I expand the Ground Control with extra switches (midi based)? I don't want to use a extra GCP controller because it is to big (to handle).

Can I use the Vodoolab Pedalswitcher:
http://www.alpha-music.com/productcart/ ... 47586X.jpg

or the Voodoolab Commander:
http://www.drumza.com/images/VoodooLabC ... Switch.jpg

Mark

Re: Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:51 am
by JohnClark
The Ground Control Pro presets can control the loops of up to four GCX switchers. Unless you require a virtual pedalboard type interface for every effect in your *, Instant Access buttons are not necessary in order for the Ground Control Pro to control the loops of the GCX. A Ground Control Pro preset can recall a patch on your G-Major wile simultaneously activating/bypassing any combination of GCX loops.

There is no add on Instant Access expander presently for the Ground Control Pro.
The Commander is a controller for the pedalboard switchers and will not work to add more Instant Access buttons to the Ground Control Pro.
The Pedal Switcher's buttons will control the loops within the Pedal Switcher itself only.

We are hard at work on new software for the Ground Control Pro that includes provisions for future hardware additions. There is no set release date yet for this software.

I hope that helps!

Re: Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:43 pm
by esuav
any news on whether or not you will implement a 8 preset / 4 instant access mode?

Thanks!
Danny

Re: Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:07 pm
by arizona guitarist
esuav wrote:any news on whether or not you will implement a 8 preset / 4 instant access mode?

Thanks!
Danny
I could see people wanting that.

But I would like to see Grouping implemented. I think that is the word.
So that you can set 2 or 3 Instant Access buttons where stepping on one disables the other. Just found out using this to control my amp channels isn't going to work very well since stepping on the IA button for channel 3 doesn't defeat the button for channel 2, so I have to press that before repressing the button for 3 to get back to channel 1 on my Mark V.

But PLEASE release that update soon. I just got my Ground Control Pro and am already considering returning it for something else much more expensive since it doesn't do what I envisioned. Its not Voodoos fault, I just didn't know what I was doing when I bought it.

Re: Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:32 pm
by John01W
To arizona guitarist :

Is the GCX your switcher/switching your amp? Most people don't set up their amp channel switching this way and have the IA buttons dedicated to effects, eqs, boosts and the like not specific amp channels(boosts are ok).

You would use presets(preset buttons) to switch the footswitch funtions/amp channels on/off, then it will do exactly what you are saying.....

In the setup/expanders menu you would have GCX 1 enabled(GCX or other)...then when you edit your preset and scroll to GCX 1...(press your IA buttons on this page)


Here you will have access to each loop of that gcx will put out cc# controllers to switch your switcher which you'll have 8 per preset per gcx. There is where you will enable/disable footswitch functions. Select your combiation and save the preset. If you have a gcx it's automatically set for the right controllers obviously.

Each preset is a saved combination. I have a 3 channel head and a 3channel preamp with switchable eq and the GCP controls it all fine...the problem is I don't have enough footswitch switchers(Control switcher???? Voodoo?)

I keep my IA buttons for other things, and I really have for some time needed more than the 8 provided. The GCP will do what your trying to do.

Re: Extend Ground Control additional instant access switches

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:54 pm
by arizona guitarist
John01W wrote:Is the GCX your switcher/switching your amp? Most people don't set up their amp channel switching this way and have the IA buttons dedicated to effects, eqs, boosts and the like not specific amp channels(boosts are ok).

You would use presets(preset buttons) to switch the footswitch funtions/amp channels on/off, then it will do exactly what you are saying.....

In the setup/expanders menu you would have your GCX 1 enabled(GCX or other)...then when you edit your preset and scroll to GCX 1 and each loop of that gcx will put out cc# controllers to switch your switcher which you'll have 8 per preset per gcx, there's where you will enable/disable footswitch functions. Each preset is a saved combination. I have a 3 channel head and a 3channel preamp with switchable eq and the GCP controls it all fine...the problem is I don't have enough footswitch switchers(Control switcher???? Voodoo?)

I keep my IA buttons for other things, and I really have for some time needed more than the 8 provided. The GCP will do what your trying to do.
First, no, I am not using a GCX, for the time being I am using the relays on the G-Major 2.
I have a feeling I will either going with a Mini Amp Gizmo with the GCX, or the RG-16, as it is a wash price wise.

But I still don't see how the GCX will do what I cannot do as it is. If I use presets then I need a preset for both channels...or technically 3 since I have 3 channels. Thats two presets I have to make...which I probably don't need. Part of this is probably Mesa's fault for not implementing MIDI into the Mark V, but for a hard and fast set list, what you say would be fine. You could program every sound you need and just go right through the presets and never look back. But for playing out, and playing at home or with the band experimenting, this is going to be a PITA not being able to change channels without having to take my hand and manual push the button of the Amp Gizmo...or use two of my 8 IA buttons and at times push both to change a channel.

I can't use MIDI with my amp while still using the foot controller...and the 1/4" jacks don't do the EFX loop or Reverb. So now I need Instant Access buttons to replace my foot controller. So without either Instant Access buttons, or even better, Grouped Instant Access buttons, I don't see how any of this is possible with a Ground Control Pro...with or without the GCX.

So basically, if that was as confusing to read as it was to type....
I can't truly change my channels while simultaneously allowing the Presets to have control over them.


BTW, I just bought a Pedal Switcher. That thing will be cool to get my Wahs out of the chain. I stress it isn't the quality of what I have seen, its just I think I jumped the gun on what I really wanted since its my first MIDI controller.