Hi John, I was wondering if the Control Switcher is capable of controlling the Traynor YCS100H2.
The amp uses 3 momentary switches for channel witching and a latching switch for solo boost. It also uses a TRS cable for parallel fx loop and on board reverb (none of which I use).
The foot controller (which controls channel switching and solo boost) connects to the amp using a 5-pin Din connector with a -17V ground. Is it possible to control the amp with the Control Switcher?
Please say yes
Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
OK, I'll say yes, not because you asked so nicely, but because it will work.
It looks like you can use a standard 5-Pin MIDI cable (as long as all 5 pins are wired... a.k.a. 5 Pin Active or 5 Pin Wired) connected to the Control Switcher's Multi jack. This will arrange the Control Switcher switches so that Switch 1 controls Channel 1, Switch 2 controls the Solo boost, Switch 3 controls Channel 2, and Switch 4 controls Channel 3. Switches 1, 3, and 4 will need to be set to Momentary and Switch 2 will need to be set to Latching. I hope that helps.
It looks like you can use a standard 5-Pin MIDI cable (as long as all 5 pins are wired... a.k.a. 5 Pin Active or 5 Pin Wired) connected to the Control Switcher's Multi jack. This will arrange the Control Switcher switches so that Switch 1 controls Channel 1, Switch 2 controls the Solo boost, Switch 3 controls Channel 2, and Switch 4 controls Channel 3. Switches 1, 3, and 4 will need to be set to Momentary and Switch 2 will need to be set to Latching. I hope that helps.
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
John...
Thank you.
Lucky for me, the store near where I live does carry the amp, and voodoo lab gear. Now I feel like I can go and try this out myself.
If this works, I will forever be a VL fanboy (sort of are already ). I have talked to RJM, Traynor, and nobody seemed to have enough confidence in their gear. Yours is rather inspiring, but well justified. I own a couple of PP2+, and ISO5, GCP, GCX and the Analog Chorus (LED), and now I will have to get this as well.
Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
Thank you.
Lucky for me, the store near where I live does carry the amp, and voodoo lab gear. Now I feel like I can go and try this out myself.
If this works, I will forever be a VL fanboy (sort of are already ). I have talked to RJM, Traynor, and nobody seemed to have enough confidence in their gear. Yours is rather inspiring, but well justified. I own a couple of PP2+, and ISO5, GCP, GCX and the Analog Chorus (LED), and now I will have to get this as well.
Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
John, another question for you...
OK so I tried the control switch with my amp, but as it turns out, it actually turns off ALL the channels in the amp...
It would appear as though the way to switch channels on the amp is done by using a pulse that closes the circuit between the channel selector and then behaves like an open circuit. To illustrate this, I disconnected all the cables in the foot switch and was able to duplicate this behavior by touching the common ground to the channel selection cable...
When I use the control switcher it performs the pulse switch, but it also behaves as though it leaves the circuit closed. I have set the required switches to momentary mode and set to pulse ON.
I wonder if there is a way to get the control switcher to support momentary, pulse on, and N.O. behavior so that it acts like it closes the circuit when I select it, and then behaves like an open circuit afterwards? Is that even possible? Or if there is a way to simulate this behavior with additional circuit components?
Thanks!
OK so I tried the control switch with my amp, but as it turns out, it actually turns off ALL the channels in the amp...
It would appear as though the way to switch channels on the amp is done by using a pulse that closes the circuit between the channel selector and then behaves like an open circuit. To illustrate this, I disconnected all the cables in the foot switch and was able to duplicate this behavior by touching the common ground to the channel selection cable...
When I use the control switcher it performs the pulse switch, but it also behaves as though it leaves the circuit closed. I have set the required switches to momentary mode and set to pulse ON.
I wonder if there is a way to get the control switcher to support momentary, pulse on, and N.O. behavior so that it acts like it closes the circuit when I select it, and then behaves like an open circuit afterwards? Is that even possible? Or if there is a way to simulate this behavior with additional circuit components?
Thanks!
Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
I am sorry for the trouble. Let me try to contact someone at Yorkville Sound/Traynor to be sure we do this correctly before going further.
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I was curious if you had found anything yet. I am wanting to connect my YCS100H2 to my GCX Guitar Audio Switcher.
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
Nothing yet.
As described above, the way the YCS100H2 does channel switching is kind of weird. For some reason channel switching is not done by connecting the "channel" wire to the ground and leaving it there, in fact, it connects it for just a moment and then it reverts back to what looks like an open circuit.
I so hoped the Control Switch would be the silver bullet, but it isn't. What I am wondering now is if this behaviour could be duplicated using relays? I am not entirely sure how the CS does its switching, but maybe if I use it to control relays that would in turn control the channel switching it may work?
John, if you are reading this thread, what would you suggest? Traynor has not been very helpful in this regard towards me which is a shame...
As described above, the way the YCS100H2 does channel switching is kind of weird. For some reason channel switching is not done by connecting the "channel" wire to the ground and leaving it there, in fact, it connects it for just a moment and then it reverts back to what looks like an open circuit.
I so hoped the Control Switch would be the silver bullet, but it isn't. What I am wondering now is if this behaviour could be duplicated using relays? I am not entirely sure how the CS does its switching, but maybe if I use it to control relays that would in turn control the channel switching it may work?
John, if you are reading this thread, what would you suggest? Traynor has not been very helpful in this regard towards me which is a shame...
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
So John, have you not heard anything or have any suggestions?
I would really like to know if this was an exercise in futility and just move on if that is the case.
Thanks.
I would really like to know if this was an exercise in futility and just move on if that is the case.
Thanks.
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Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
OK, so it has been several months, and still no reply?
Wow, I know there is activity in this forum because I see people getting their questions answered, but if this whole device not jiving with my amp is the way it will always be, then please at the very least say so instead of just ignoring me.
Oh well, c'est la vie I suppose...
Wow, I know there is activity in this forum because I see people getting their questions answered, but if this whole device not jiving with my amp is the way it will always be, then please at the very least say so instead of just ignoring me.
Oh well, c'est la vie I suppose...
Re: Control Switcher and Traynor YCS100H2
I am terrably sorry that you got left hanging in all this.
I guess over time I sort of gave up trying to get the necessary information from Traynor/Yorkville Sound about this amp... I will try again.
I was never ignoring you!
I suppose in the mean time we can try a little test. Can you possibly give us a call while you are with this amp and have the Control Switcher connected?
I guess over time I sort of gave up trying to get the necessary information from Traynor/Yorkville Sound about this amp... I will try again.
I was never ignoring you!
I suppose in the mean time we can try a little test. Can you possibly give us a call while you are with this amp and have the Control Switcher connected?
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