I have a Fender Frontman amplicicador - VOX 212R and A30. I would use them in the GCX but they do not have send and return.
As you would use them in the GCX??
Thank you for your attention
Use of Amplifiers in GCX
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Re: Use of Amplifiers in GCX
Hello Marcus
I am going to assume that you will be using some sort of MIDI Controller and a GCX to switch some pedals in and out of your setup...
For your three amps, it would be better for you if you used the Voodoo Lab amp Selector to switch your guitar between the amps.
You can run all or your pre-fx (boosts, distortion, wah, etc) before the amp switcher, but for the FX that you would normally place in the amps loop (chorus, delay, reverb) will be expensive to integrate.
If you want to run fx between the amps you will need to run all of the amps into their own load box with a line out... something like three separate THD Hot Plates set to load. Then you need to mix the load-box line outs and and add FX in parallel with your mixer's FX/MON Bus. (since you are running the FX in parallel, set your FX to Kill-Dry if you can)
Then the mixer outs can feed a Tube Power Amp/ Speakers (mono or stereo!)
The GCX will allow the switching of your front-end Fx and muting of your mid-stage Fx INPUTS so that your delays and revebs trail when you change patches.
If you want to save the costs of the load boxes you can have your amps modified for an FX loop.... On most amps you can AC couple a send and return jack and break the line between the tone stack and phase inverter. (Leave this to a tech)
It would be nice if the Voodoo Lab Amp selector was MIDI controllable..... then GCP program changes could switch amps as well. I have modified several Amp Switchers to allow MIDI control to do just that... there might be some other amp Switchers out there that can switch 3 amps via MIDI... I think that Lehle makes some.
***If my assumptions are wrong and you are running all of your Fx before the amps, and just want to switch between the amps through their own speakers, then the Amp Selector will work by itself once you get all of the levels worked out/ matched. The Amp Selector has level controls for each amp and has transformer isolation and ground lifts so that you won't have any hum in your guitar signal.***
I hope this helps as opposed to making things more complicated.
Seeya
Joe
I am going to assume that you will be using some sort of MIDI Controller and a GCX to switch some pedals in and out of your setup...
For your three amps, it would be better for you if you used the Voodoo Lab amp Selector to switch your guitar between the amps.
You can run all or your pre-fx (boosts, distortion, wah, etc) before the amp switcher, but for the FX that you would normally place in the amps loop (chorus, delay, reverb) will be expensive to integrate.
If you want to run fx between the amps you will need to run all of the amps into their own load box with a line out... something like three separate THD Hot Plates set to load. Then you need to mix the load-box line outs and and add FX in parallel with your mixer's FX/MON Bus. (since you are running the FX in parallel, set your FX to Kill-Dry if you can)
Then the mixer outs can feed a Tube Power Amp/ Speakers (mono or stereo!)
The GCX will allow the switching of your front-end Fx and muting of your mid-stage Fx INPUTS so that your delays and revebs trail when you change patches.
If you want to save the costs of the load boxes you can have your amps modified for an FX loop.... On most amps you can AC couple a send and return jack and break the line between the tone stack and phase inverter. (Leave this to a tech)
It would be nice if the Voodoo Lab Amp selector was MIDI controllable..... then GCP program changes could switch amps as well. I have modified several Amp Switchers to allow MIDI control to do just that... there might be some other amp Switchers out there that can switch 3 amps via MIDI... I think that Lehle makes some.
***If my assumptions are wrong and you are running all of your Fx before the amps, and just want to switch between the amps through their own speakers, then the Amp Selector will work by itself once you get all of the levels worked out/ matched. The Amp Selector has level controls for each amp and has transformer isolation and ground lifts so that you won't have any hum in your guitar signal.***
I hope this helps as opposed to making things more complicated.
Seeya
Joe
Re: Use of Amplifiers in GCX
I use Liquid Foot Pro and have 3 GCX.
I just would really like is that my amps (which has send and return) could be placed in the loops and I could switch their use in accordance with the configuration preset in LF.
I just would really like is that my amps (which has send and return) could be placed in the loops and I could switch their use in accordance with the configuration preset in LF.
Re: Use of Amplifiers in GCX
I'm confused. First you wrote:
"I have a Fender Frontman amplicicador - VOX 212R and A30. I would use them in the GCX but they do not have send and return."
...and now you wrote:
"I just would really like is that my amps (which has send and return) could be placed in the loops and I could switch their use in accordance with the configuration preset in LF."
These two statements cancel each other out, so if you would, please tell us which amps have an FX Loop and which ones do not. Once we have that information it will be a lot easier to suggest the routing scheme for you.
"I have a Fender Frontman amplicicador - VOX 212R and A30. I would use them in the GCX but they do not have send and return."
...and now you wrote:
"I just would really like is that my amps (which has send and return) could be placed in the loops and I could switch their use in accordance with the configuration preset in LF."
These two statements cancel each other out, so if you would, please tell us which amps have an FX Loop and which ones do not. Once we have that information it will be a lot easier to suggest the routing scheme for you.
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