help! with my new guitar rack rig

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felipe_esp
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help! with my new guitar rack rig

Post by felipe_esp »

Hi, greetings from Santiago Chile...

if anybody can give me an idea about connecting my rack, im new with these kind of systems.

here´s the list.

ada mp1
ada mp1
compressor dbx 1074
G major
gcx audio switcher
ground control pro


thank you all for any ideas...

rock on!!

JohnClark
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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Welcome!


What do you want to do with your two preamps and compressor?

A/B Preamp #1 OR Preamp #2 -> compressor -> power amp?


Do you have any other effects or MIDI gear? Will this be mono, dual mono, stereo?
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felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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thanks for your answer...

actually i have a peavey valveking 20. but i´m trying to get a mesa o marshall 9100.
for now just the peavey though...

I´m planning to use both ADA preamps, one for distorsion and one for the clean channel, with different tubes that´s the reason i´m using both.
For effects i use the g major, and i´m not sure about the compressor...but i want to use it as well.
I also have a pod pro xt but i think is gonna stay in the rack just for the looks...
I need to know the right loop for this rig. it´s hard to make the right configuration and sound.

thanks again...

felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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felipe_esp wrote:thanks for your answer...

actually i have a peavey valveking 20. but i´m trying to get a mesa o marshall 9100.
for now just the peavey though...

I´m planning to use both ADA preamps, one for distorsion and one for the clean channel, with different tubes that´s the reason i´m using both.
For effects i use the g major, and i´m not sure about the compressor...but i want to use it as well.
I also have a pod pro xt but i think is gonna stay in the rack just for the looks...
I need to know the right loop for this rig. it´s hard to make the right configuration and sound.

thanks again...



it´ll mono...remember that i just got the gcx audio switcher and ground control pro

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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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Ok!

I don't know exactly which numbered Loops you will use so I will label them with "A", "B", and "C" for now.

Here is how to set up a GCX Loop to A/B switch between the two preamps.
1. Connect your guitar to the Guitar In on the front of the GCX, then you can use the rear panel Guitar Out and Feedthru to feed the instrument input of each preamp.
2. Connect the Output of the Clean preamp to the In of GCX Loop A.
3. Connect the Output of the Distortion Preamp to the Return of same GCX Loop A.
4. Connect the Out of GCX Loop A to the In of GCX Loop B.

These two GCX Loops will be for your effects devices. The Compressor or the G-Major can be first... that is up to you for how you like it to sound.
5. Connect the Send of GCX Loop B to your #1 effect device Input.
6. Connect the Output of your #1 effect device to the Return of GCX Loop B.
7. Connect the Out of GCX Loop B to the In of GCX Loop C.
8. Connect the Send of GCX Loop C to the #2 effect device Input.
9. Connect the #2 effect device to the Return of GCX Loop C.
10. The Out of GCX Loop C will go to your poweramp. (Effects Loop Return on the Valveking 20)

Let us know if you get stuck!
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felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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thank you so much for this!!!
i´ll try what you tell me and i´ll let you know asap how i´m going trough this "journey"...

thanks again...from Santiago Chile, tonight we have zakk wylde-Acoustic down here, i can´t wait!!

felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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hey John!!
i tried what you told me, i wasn´t lucky this time. all i´ve got was the clean sound but just from the peavey, i get no sound from the ADA or the G major. The signal is ok on the GCX, i´m really lost right now, i really need to get this right once for all.
as i read the gcx manual i understand that every device must be connected via midi. here´s a couple of pics out of my guitar rig. if you can help me out...please!!!

thanks for everything...
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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Your picture shows no connections being made! You can use any three GCX Loops you want. Here is a slight edit of the connections for clarity...

1. Connect your guitar to the Guitar In on the front of the GCX.
2. Connect the Guitar Out on the rear of the GCX to the Clean Preamp instrument input.
3. Connect the Feedthru on the rear of the GCX to the to Distortion Preamp instrument input.
4. Connect the Output of the Clean Preamp to the In of GCX Loop 1.
5. Connect the Output of the Distortion Preamp to the Return GCX Loop 1.
6. Connect the Out of GCX Loop 1 to the In of GCX Loop 2.

7. Connect the Send of GCX Loop 2 to the G-Major mono Input.
8. Connect the mono Output of the G-Major to the Return of GCX Loop 2.
9. Connect the Out of GCX Loop 2 to the In of GCX Loop 3.
10. Connect the Send of GCX Loop 3 to the Compressor Input.
11. Connect the Output of the Compressor to the Return of GCX Loop 3.
12. The Out of GCX Loop 3 will go to your poweramp. (Effects Loop Return on the Valveking 20)

Loop 1 will select the Clean Preamp when Off or the Distortion Preamp when On.
Loop 2 will turn the G-Major On/Off.
Loop 3 will turn the Compressor On/Off.

You will certainly need to connect all your MIDI gear with MIDI cables also, but this shouldn't prevent you from hearing the preamps and effects if you didnt connect the MIDI cables yet. After connecting the audio cables, you will only need the GCX connected to the Ground Control Pro via MIDI to hear everything work.

Let us know if you get stuck.
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felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

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ok, thanks again...and specially for your patience...i´ll try once again your configuration and i´ll let you know.
the pictures i took were from right after i disconnected the whole rack...only with the intention to re-configure and be organized...
i´ll get to work right away....THANK YOU

felipe_esp
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Re: help! with my new guitar rack rig

Post by felipe_esp »

JohnClark wrote:Ok!

I don't know exactly which numbered Loops you will use so I will label them with "A", "B", and "C" for now.

Here is how to set up a GCX Loop to A/B switch between the two preamps.
1. Connect your guitar to the Guitar In on the front of the GCX, then you can use the rear panel Guitar Out and Feedthru to feed the instrument input of each preamp.
2. Connect the Output of the Clean preamp to the In of GCX Loop A.
3. Connect the Output of the Distortion Preamp to the Return of same GCX Loop A.
4. Connect the Out of GCX Loop A to the In of GCX Loop B.

These two GCX Loops will be for your effects devices. The Compressor or the G-Major can be first... that is up to you for how you like it to sound.
5. Connect the Send of GCX Loop B to your #1 effect device Input.
6. Connect the Output of your #1 effect device to the Return of GCX Loop B.
7. Connect the Out of GCX Loop B to the In of GCX Loop C.
8. Connect the Send of GCX Loop C to the #2 effect device Input.
9. Connect the #2 effect device to the Return of GCX Loop C.
10. The Out of GCX Loop C will go to your poweramp. (Effects Loop Return on the Valveking 20)

Let us know if you get stuck!
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hi John!!
finally there is a smile on my face thanks to your advice...
actually everything is working, i just need to connect each device via midi, so i´ll take your advice once again if you have the time.
i have everything configured exactly as the list above. it´s sounds amazing so far.
thanks again!!!

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